" Well, 8B+ flash sounds amazing but I can't put as 8B+, it was all too simple compared to The Dagger or La Proue. I just gave it go without expecting anything and suddenly I was on the top and did not find it very hard. But I do not say it can't be 8B+, it might have been pretty much my style or I don't know... To flash The Vice was much more difficult for me. see Martin's comment as well". Adam Ondra
Martin Keller's comment:
"grading shit: shark hunt is supposed 2 be 8A by some CRIMPY BOYS but 4 me shaky is harder than confessions - so confessions must be 7C - and as the riverbed is easier then confessions the riverbed must be 7B!!! IF you are gonna pretent to be some humble brave whatever - beat least consistent - what will show to u show FUCKED up this grading shit is -it will never work like it is supposed to - its 4 NERDS brave HUMBLERS and POINT hunters ;)"
"I had not thought at all I could flash. It looked so impossible and also when I saw Daniel Woods trying it last year it looked really hard. In every move while climbing I was surprised that I was still on the rock and suddenly I was in the upper and easy part. And I started to cheer."
Confessions is described by Michele Caminati as "harder than many 8bs but definitely easier than other 8b+s I've done".
Photos by Angela Wagner, climber Martin Keller.
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