F.A. Steve Mc Clure, 28th may 2007 
" I called the route Overshadow.

It overshadows all my other achievements in terms of difficulty, commitment and focus, and makes a fine companion to the neighbouring route, ‘Rainshadow’.

It’s one of the best routes I’ve ever done, and it’s the hardest.

It seems important to stick a number on things these days. If you don’t, everyone else will anyway. When it’s a big number some say its for publicity, to ‘big up’ ones self, but at this level allowing others to grade is perhaps even more self publicity, as often it’s over inflated. And then it’s easy for the climber to avoid the issue but bask in the glory.

I suggest it could be 9a+, an estimate based on effort and experience.

But then how important is it to get it exactly right? Not important at all!

What’s important is honestly suggesting a level. If it’s wrong, either up or down, so what!

At this level the actual number is not so important.

What counts is it’s a great route that tested me right to my limit. Had it been 8c or 9b the journey from start to finish would have been no more or less rewarding ".

Adam Ondra


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" There is some unfinished business, so I should be back next spring.

Overshadow is waiting. I also want to go to Raven Tor as Hubble is a must since it is the World's first 8c+.

Also Steve's new project at Malham looks just amazing."


As promised, Adam is back: come on Overshadow, you can do it ! ;-)

Live (or reality ?) here.

2nd ascent Adam Ondra

"It was also amazing how our sport is so open to all, with Adam, the best climber in the world, swapping goes on the first part of the route with Carl Bacon who made a cool redpoint of Overnite Sensation (8a+). Adam was just as psyched for Carl as Carl was for him. We are all equal really, just people, trying hard on great routes."



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Sell on 9b your climbing topos to other world climbers !

Posted by 9b on March 1, 2013 at 4:00pm 0 Comments

27cragsclimbervoice8a and many others are amazing sites, but sometimes, expecially if you worked a lot to envision, bolt, clean routes or boulders, you want to monetize a little your efforts.

9b can help you in this aim.


As you can see here, in 9b there are many " topo groups ".


You can add a discussion in every "topo group".

In your discussion you can edit and publish your own climbing topoguide, as a "paywall", a "destination page", requiring climbers their payment by credit card or paypal to access and read, even on SMARTPHONES (iphones, android phones, ...)


After having paid, climbers can see, save and print your climbing topoguide.


In this discussion you can add:


1) PHOTOS regarding one specific SECTOR (of routes or bouldering, dws lines)


a) "PHOTO topo":

It's very easy to edit a photo topo:

- upload a photo of a rock in a topo group discussion

- drawn the lines

- write names and grades (an example…



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